With $150,000 on the line, a murder witness changes her story

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LINCOLN COUNTY, MO (KPLR) - It's a twist revealed in a civil lawsuit.  The adult daughters of murder victim Betsy Faria are suing to get the proceeds from their mom`s life insurance.  Pam Hupp has the $150,000 proceeds, because the policy was signed over into her name, days before the murder.

During a Civil Court deposition in July 2014, Pam Hupp said, 'I had a lot of pressure on me from the detectives and the Attorney General and the whole side that was representing Betsy to form a trust for the girls.'

Pam Hupp drove Betsy Faria home the night Faria was murdered, December 27th, 2011.

Major Case Squad Detectives audio recorded an interview with Hupp the next morning.  Hupp explained why Faria signed over her life insurance.  She explained how Faria told her, 'I`m gonna make you beneficiary. When you can, give them money when they get older.'  She went on to tell Detectives how Betsy said, 'I want my kids to have it.'

Now Hupp`s changed her story.  In this July`s Civil Court deposition Hupp said Faria, 'didn`t want her daughters to have the money, her mom to have the money, her sisters to have the money.'

The Civil Attorney followed up, 'So, was your impression was that she wanted you to have the money is that right?'

Hupp answered, 'That`s correct.'

In the Civil Court deposition, Hupp said she only made it look like Faria`s girls would get the money, by setting up a trust.  She said, 'Police were asking me to do it. I should do it. It would help their case.'  She continued, 'Detective (McCarrick) told me you can do what you want with it. It`s yours, but we would like for you to set up a trust for the girls.'  Hupp added, 'It`s a revocable trust, so I revoked it. I revoked the funds.'  Hupp also said, 'It was my money.'

That conflicts with what Hupp told police and how she testified at the Faria murder trial.  During the criminal trial in November 2013, Assistant Attorney General Richard Hicks asked, '(Betsy's) purpose was to try to assure that (the money) got to the girls?'

Hupp testified, 'That's correct.'

Hupp described putting $100,000 in a trust for the girls and the remaining $50,000 Hupp testified at trial '...my other girlfriend died of breast cancer... and she has a 12-year-old daughter that I'm trying to help.'

Assistant Attorney General Hicks asked, 'Are you using that money for that?'

Hupp testified, 'Yes.'

Now look at Hupp's story today.  In this July`s civil deposition, an attorney asked, 'Did you ever tell anyone you gave $50,000 to a family.'

Hupp responded, 'No.'

The attorney asked, 'You never told anyone that?'

Hupp answered, 'I told them I was contemplating it.'

Seven months after the murder, Hupp told the chief detective she did not need Betsy's money.  She said, 'My mom is worth a half a million that I get when she dies."

Her Mom died three months later. Hupp now disputes that she got half a million.  The civil attorney asked, 'It wasn`t $500,000.'

Hupp laughed in response, then said, 'I`m sorry. No.'

Outside of a Civil Court hearing this October, Mark Hupp said, 'Get out of my way man.'  Mark Hupp tried to block our camera.   We were looking for a response outside of Court, where Betsy Faria's daughters are awaiting a trial they hope will lead to them getting their Mom's life insurance proceeds.  A Judge froze the Hupp's bank accounts during the proceedings.  Inside the Courtroom and off camera, Pam Hupp told me it's not fair and added that her husband's countersuing the daughters because of it.  Hupp also told me off camera, she cannot access money she gets for her disability, $800 a month she says for her neck, back and legs.  Outside of Court, she did not talk.  She ran.

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